“Most people don’t get to go play in the water for fun or for their job. For the age groupers, it is fun. Everyone else does it as a hobby and for enjoyment. It still feels like that for me so as long as I’ve got that element of enjoyment or fun or enthusiasm, you’ve got a long career in the sport."

“Swimming with people makes the sessions more lighthearted and makes the sessions go a lot quicker and easier [...] If you’re doing relays, you’re more likely to swim that second faster if you’re doing it for your teammate.”